NEW guild

[Pringles]

Below you will find the set-up of our guild that goes by the name NEW. We (Elders of NEW) would love to hear feedback from you on this. Once you read through what we do please give us some feedback and leave a vote in the poll above post.
 
 
New Players Assistance (NEW).
 
Mission
 
The mission of NEW is to contribute positively to server's health, helping to grow the population as a neutral guild, reaching out to new players and helping them to become self-sufficiënt. This is done in the hope that players are more likely to find their home on UO Lost Lands, with the support of the server population.
 
 
Goals (1-4)
 
1. Providing a temporary home for new players who seek assistance, knowledge or companionship during their newbie time on the server.
 
Right now new players that are in the NEW go by guild title Recruit. When the guild is ready (after we have enough starter pack items and houses in guildtown are not empty anymore), we will change guild titles of all existing recruits to show a date of their initiation.
 
Membership in NEW for new players is maximum 3 months. By this time, most new players will already have their main characters finished. They would have also had enough time to interact with the playerbase of UO Lost Lands so that they can find a more permanent guild or to start one themselves. Only in exceptional cases the membership can be prelonged (for instance when someone has not been able to play much due to real life circumstances or when the learning curve is slower than normal).
 
The new players are recognizable by their joining date in their guildtitle (month-day-year).
 
Permanent members of NEW have different roles:
Guildmaster

• The Guildmaster leads the guild, is the Head Elder and together with the other Elders he makes decisions, in which he has the last say.  He is the main face of the guild and is a binding factor within the guild and community.
  
• He is the one the other members answer too.
  
• TheGods is the guildmaster of NEW
  
• During the period that NEW is starting up, Pringles is leading this process.
  

Elder

• Each Elder has a vote when it comes to making decisions that have an impact on the guild.
  
• When the Head Elder is not online, an Elder is able to make decisions alone or together with the Elders that are online. When he isn't sure what to do, he will wait untill another Elder gets online or wait till the Head Elder gets on.
  
• An Elder guilds new players. He has access to the guildstone holder.
  
• The Elder explains the guildrules to a new player before guilding him. After guilding he will give the new player a starters pack (estimated value 10k) and helps the new player to get started. Of course an Elder also answers any questions the new player has. He will give basic information as to where to find information about the server, how to communicate with the rest of population, [motd information and will invite the new player to discord as well as invite him to the guild channel.
  
• An Elder can also be a Companion.
  
• Groucho, KJ, Van Doren, Ornithology, Catweazle and Pringles are Elders.
  

Companion

• A Companion is a member that takes part in the Companion Program of the server.
  
• In most cases he also has another role within the guild.
  
• Ornithology is a Companion.
  

Mentor

• Mentors form the backbone of NEW. They are those who help new recruits on daily basis. It can be with anything: from sharing their knowledge to helping the new player by answering a help call, taking new player on a hunt,  gating, marking runes, giving magic or crafted items to new players in need. (Elders and Guildmaster do this too, when they are not busy with their main tasks).
  
• A mentor can also be a Companion.
  
• Mentors are:  Jay-Z,  Trickery, Mista Disco, Orphea, Barristan and Landryn Teriak.
  

Assistant

• An Assistant is a member that is working to become a Mentor.
  
• Sir Lancelot, Sixx, Daniel Gobban and Storm Silverhand are Assistants.
  

 
What is written above does not mean that a member of NEW can not pursue their own aims and goals within or aside from the guild.  NEW does expect its members to spend a decent amount of time on NEW character(s) and  that their non NEW characters do not kill or scam other NEW members. Elders and Guildmaster must have NEW as their main guild, which means NEW must have priority above any other guild they are in.
 
While the main focus of NEW is to help new recruits we are not blind to those who prefer to get through the newbie stage on their own or in a different way. Any new player can always contact us with questions whether it will be on discord, forum or in game. We are a cheerful bunch of folks and will gladly help out.
 
 
2. To be a bridge between new players and the settled in server community.
 
NEW will encourage new players to make contact with others on the server by introducing them to Discord and Forum. We promote interaction of newbies with other players through all available channels.
 
When a new player has problems finding a guild, we will help him. If no one is willing to take in the player, then we will put him on our second guildstone. This is something we will do to try to avoid players like that quiting the server, due to not being able to find players to play with. After all UO is a MMORPG.
 
All guilds that are willing to take in new players are welcome to approach a new player to recruit them at any time.
 
Most of the permanent members of NEW will be encouraged to take part in the server's  
 
 
3.  To be and stay a neutral guild.
 
Any actions of a NEW member that conflict with the neutral status of NEW will not be tolerated.
 
To ensure NEW stays neutral we have following rules:

• Always show your guildtag.
  
• Never attack other players without their approval. 
  
• Members may defend themselves, but can not be the aggressor.
  
• Never loot other players corpses without their consent.
  
• Griefing is not tollerated:
  

           - never use the stealing skill on players
           - no snooping a player without the players approval
           - do not loot houses of others
           - never steal anything that belongs to others
           - when others are training skills, do not distrub their training.
           - just because it's not listed in here, doesn't make it okay to do so

• Do not attack other players pets.
  
• Never loot someone else's monster kill, treasure hunt chest or chests gotten with mibs, without their consent.
  
• Never become involved in other guilds fights.
  
• Do not use your NEW character to help your non guilded character(s) in a pvp situation. You are allowed to use your NEW character to gate or resurrect  your other characters thought.
  
• Always be respectfull to others. Excessive language is not tollerated.
  
• Never beg.
  
• Do not spam guildchat.
  

 
While breaking some of the rules leads to a warning (shit can happen), others will result in an instant guildboot. Third warning will result in being booted from the guild.
 
When you see a member breaking these rules please contact an Elder who will assess the situation and take appropiate action.
 
To prevent griefers to try to get NEW player booted from the guild, we will ask an RPV or screenshot and have a hearsay with the player in question and others that were there.
 
 
4. Server Support.
 
We strongly believe that helping new players should not be an effort of a few, but something we need to do together as a community.
 
We hope that everyone is willing to hold back on new players. We are not asking  you to not pk them. We merely ask that you consider the fact that they are new here and can not yet fight back the way you can. They have little goods that are hard earned and sometimes they have no idea where they are (which makes it difficult for us to resurrect them). We would appreciate it if you loot "lightly" and offer a gate out or resurrection. 
 
Established members of NEW are free game. Respect is earned, not handed out by a guild tag is our opinion.
 
If you are interested in helping NEW you can contact the Guildmaster or any Elder. Any ideas or offers to aid new players are welcome.
 
We don't actively recruit permanent members, but if you would like to join to help on daily basis,  we can talk about it. Becoming Elder is not something you can request, it is something you have to be asked for with a 100% vote of all Elders and the Guildmaster. 
 
All donations are welcome, but we do prefer items over gold. We estimated that each new player will cost the guild around 10k. Since we are fairly new ourselves on UO Lost Lands, this is a fortune. We need your help with this. In our experience the starter pack contains just enough to get going. Goal for us is to help new players to become self-sufficiënt so handing out more would be contra productive.
 
Depending on the build we are aiming for following items in starter pack:
 
Characters with magery:

• full spellbook (4k)
  
• 150 of each reg (4,35k)
  
• runebook (350gp)
  
• 3x runes (48gp)
  
• 3x mark scroll (180gp)
  
• 10x recall scroll (450gp)
  
• 3x gate scroll (208,5)
  

total: 10,02k
 
Characters with weapon skills:

• 2 armor sets with 2 shields (2k)
  
• 2k bandages (4,8k)
  
• runebook (350gp)
  
• 3 mark scrolls (180gp)
  
• 15 recall scrolls (675gp)
  
• 1 silver weapon (500gp)
  
• 3 gm weapons (750gp)
  
• 1 magic weapon (1k)
  

total: 10,3k
 
 
If you are new or fairly new on the server and would like to try us out, shoot us a pm on discord. For those that never used discord: type [discord in game and it will send you directly to the main UO Lost Lands channel.
 
 
Thanks for reading, hope it wasn't too much text.
 
NEW Elders

[Alcsaar]

3 months is quite a long amount of time. I voted for it anyway because I'm not a pker regardless, but that does seem like an extended amount of time longer than necessary.

[Pringles]

3 months is quite a long amount of time.  I voted for it anyway because I'm not a pker regardless, but that does seem like an extended amount of time longer than necessary.

Alcsaar, if 3 months is too much than  how long do you think should be enough?

[Skynyrd]

I don't think putting a time frame on this is necessary. Good people are going to be decent to newer players until given a reason not to be. Some more generous than others , some more vocal than others. Also some pk or greif experiences can make the game thrilling for younger players. I've seen players like Pixel spend a few minutes having his "fun" with newer players but then spend 2 hours actually teaching them the ropes. I also firmly believe UO thrives around conflict and angst. Because unlike IRL you can get massive revenge and be as malicious as you want !

Unfortunately some people are just going to make someone's life hell just because. No time frame is going to change their point of view.

By just having the NEW tag you are already displaying them to the numerous generous people on this server. We appreciate your effort as most of us wouldn't want the burden. But you take it head on which is admirable.

The two things in which I would focus is making sure they are all in Discord, it's the doorway to activity and true niche community feel.

Secondly educating on the types of scams older players may try to pull. As I said before being pkd can sometimes be exciting for newer players , an adrenaline rush. However potential economic scams can make a player flat out quit which is unacceptable.

[Pringles]

I don't think putting a time frame on this is necessary. Good people are going to be decent to newer players until given a reason not to be. Some more generous than others , some more vocal than others.

We have reasons to want a time frame:
1) We think that when a reasonable period is given to a new player to start up on the server, more will be willing to 'hold back".  Right now the community is very friendly for newbies/noobs, but we expect that to change a little when the population grows, so the more support we get on this the better.

2) On the other server, our guild was huge. This was because 90% of the new players had nowhere to go once they were done training. The community was besides hostile also not willing to take in noobs in their guilds. To avoid them quitting the server we decided to let them stay in guild.

3) Our guild is without the new players already big (we came here with 18 players so far) add to that new players that can stay forever and it will get too big.


Also some pk or greif experiences can make the game thrilling for younger players. I've seen players like Pixel spend a few minutes having his "fun" with newer players but then spend 2 hours actually teaching them the ropes. I also firmly believe UO thrives around conflict and angst. Because unlike IRL you can get massive revenge and be as malicious as you want !

Unfortunately some people are just going to make someone's life hell just because. No time frame is going to change their point of view.

This is why we are not asking players to not PK them. But we know that excessive pking and griefing can make them quit.

By just having the NEW tag you are already displaying them to the numerous generous people on this server. We appreciate your effort as most of us wouldn't want the burden. But you take it head on which is admirable.

Thank you!

The two things in which I would focus is making sure they are all in Discord, it's the doorway to activity and true niche community feel.

We are trying this, but some just don't understand why they should, no matter how much we explain this  

Secondly educating on the types of scams older players may try to pull. As I said before being pkd can sometimes be exciting for newer players , an adrenaline rush. However potential economic scams can make a player flat out quit which is unacceptable.

We always tell them to ask others, before they buy or sell anything. But you are right we should focus more on this. We will think about how we can do that.


Thank you for your feedback!

[Wiz Kid]

In most cases I'd be happy to anti-pk if PM'd in Discord

[Varak]

Woot! I’m glad you came over. This is Varak/Eomin. I can start putting some starter packs together. My crafter has been fully operational for a while. Someone should get some use out of his skills, heh heh. If you need some house add-ons and such for the guild town, I can get you whatever you need (outside of instruments).

As far as the discussion on timing. I think the 3 month rule is a decent rule of thumb, but you’ve made it easy for any PKer to decide on their own timeline (which they will anyway). Just look at the join date in the guild tag, and make your decision. If his guild tag says he’s two days old and has 3 shovels and 10 ingots on him, he probably really really needs those shovels.

I’d hope you wouldn’t take any “wealth” off of their corpse in the first month. Getting to a place where you can have a locked dwelling to macro safely and a place to call home in the world makes a huge difference in whether people stay or not. Taking wealth in the form of gold, hides, lumber, wool, ingots, etc can debilitating to their overall growth which can lead to quitting.

Speaking of that, if you have some new players joining that need a safe place, I’ve got four small houses set up just North of the Yew Sheep pen on the road (Lotta Notta Acres cabins 1-4). People can rent them for free for a period of 3 months as long as they feed/tend to the sheep. I just ask for their forum name so I can reach them and determine if they quit (so the houses don’t decay).
https://uolostlands.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=833

[Pringles]

@Wiz kid:
I will pass this on. Thanks for this offer, hope it isn't needed though

@Varak:
Hey Eomin, we have to catch up!

Thanks for offering help with the starters pack. I will contact you over forums or in discord (when I see you there).

About the house add-ons: The houses in the guildtown will each have their own 'theme'. The members that own that houses
are responsible for the houses. We are right now in the process of asigning houses to members.I will tell the members
that need help with house add-ons to contact you, if that is okay

As an example:
I picked tailoring. In that house will be all the things a newbie tailor will need to work that skill: from runebooks that go with
that skill (sheep pens, tailorshops, etc) to tailoring kits, scissors, etc. We hope that the guildtown gets more used this way, rather
than only the guildhouse.