01-28-2016, 10:04 PM
I think you might be confusing differences in shards. What I’ve found here is that weapons give the same ingot return rate when smelting for weapons & armor. At least I haven’t been able to document a difference in product.
Gorgets take 10 ingots and return 6 so cost right around 4 ingots per build/smelt cycle and require 56.4 skill required.
Spears take 12 ingots and return 7.5 ingots so cost right around 4.5 ingots per build cycle and require 49 skill to make.
Since gorgets cost less ingots per build and require higher skill, there will be a point where the gorget outpaces the spear in raw skill gain per ingot lost.
At skill 90 per 1,000 builds the spear will burn 6096 ingots with an 82% chance to make the build (just outside the ideal range of 60-80%)
At skill 90 per 1,000 builds the gorget will burn 5968 ingots at a 62.2% success rate. Simply put at 90 you’ll get better skill gains and use less ingots with gorgets. It’s honestly not by much. We are talking 80 ingots, but the better skill gain at 62.2% versus 82% ensures the gorget is the better choice from 90 up until about 95.
On UOSA some weapons would get crazy high ingot returns from smelting. I made A LOT of kryss’s leveling mainly because it had a 98% ingot return rate. No kidding. 98%. You were basically getting your skill points for free when making Kryss’s. That’s why you saw a lot of people making weapons most or all of the way to GM over there. They had a much better ingot return rate than armor. I once had 1,000 bronze ingots and I was low on iron. I remembered Kryss had a great return rate often giving back the same amount of ingots it costs to make them. I had Djimon make Kryss’s with them. When you smelt a weapon it always returns iron ingots regardless of the color of ingot used to make them. I was able to convert 1,000 bronze ingots into 976 iron ingots. That’s how I know the exact return on that particular item on that particular shard. Here pretty much everything seems to return right around 60%. I found one sword that was lower, but can’t remember which. When everything smelts back at the same percentage, the two factors that matter are success chance, and original ingot amount of the build (presented above).
Gorgets take 10 ingots and return 6 so cost right around 4 ingots per build/smelt cycle and require 56.4 skill required.
Spears take 12 ingots and return 7.5 ingots so cost right around 4.5 ingots per build cycle and require 49 skill to make.
Since gorgets cost less ingots per build and require higher skill, there will be a point where the gorget outpaces the spear in raw skill gain per ingot lost.
At skill 90 per 1,000 builds the spear will burn 6096 ingots with an 82% chance to make the build (just outside the ideal range of 60-80%)
At skill 90 per 1,000 builds the gorget will burn 5968 ingots at a 62.2% success rate. Simply put at 90 you’ll get better skill gains and use less ingots with gorgets. It’s honestly not by much. We are talking 80 ingots, but the better skill gain at 62.2% versus 82% ensures the gorget is the better choice from 90 up until about 95.
On UOSA some weapons would get crazy high ingot returns from smelting. I made A LOT of kryss’s leveling mainly because it had a 98% ingot return rate. No kidding. 98%. You were basically getting your skill points for free when making Kryss’s. That’s why you saw a lot of people making weapons most or all of the way to GM over there. They had a much better ingot return rate than armor. I once had 1,000 bronze ingots and I was low on iron. I remembered Kryss had a great return rate often giving back the same amount of ingots it costs to make them. I had Djimon make Kryss’s with them. When you smelt a weapon it always returns iron ingots regardless of the color of ingot used to make them. I was able to convert 1,000 bronze ingots into 976 iron ingots. That’s how I know the exact return on that particular item on that particular shard. Here pretty much everything seems to return right around 60%. I found one sword that was lower, but can’t remember which. When everything smelts back at the same percentage, the two factors that matter are success chance, and original ingot amount of the build (presented above).
Thanks,
Varak - Bard/Mage
Varak - Bard/Mage